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[news.eclipse.technology.lepido] Re: relationships with LDT

Hi,

David Sciamma wrote:

Hi,

LDT sounds really great and we are keeping an eye on the proposal.

But what is the link between the WTP SSE and LDT ?

The LDT proposal says :


"The LDT project proposes several areas of language development related to the Java Development Toolkit (JDT), Structured Source Editor (SSE), XML Schema Project (XSD), and other language-centric technologies within the Eclipse family today."

"Shared Editing Infrastructure and Reified Language Modeling. Exploring potential reuse among the JDT, CDT, and SSE editing frameworks and the creation of a reified language model that can inform a generic (but language aware) editing service. In addition to refactoring commonality, the goal is to provide appropriate leverage to new languages that avoids a "copy and paste" approach to their editing needs. This component will also target reusable language-neutral infrastructure, such as frameworks for dependency and work queue management."

I guess there will be strong interactions between WTP and LDT teams, one might say some features would be contributed directly to SSE inside WTP, and others would be incubated into LDT.

But, if you like, post your question to LDT newsgroup.

I have already read some Tim Wagner's posts in this newsgroup. Tim is involved in BEA behind LDT, and is also the WTP lead.

So, I guess, you will have then a more precise answer to your question.


We are working on the new Axe version based on the SSE not on the LDT...

Well, LDT is still in the Eclipse pipeline...


David SCIAMMA


Regards,
Dominique




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Dominique De Vito wrote:
Hi,

Lepido sounds great.

I have just one question: are relationships between Lepido and LDT planned ?

LDT proposal includes:

* XML-based Languages (XDSLs). Defining extensible semantic checking infrastructure that enables XML-based DSLs (domain specific languages) to be easily defined and rapidly turned into a high fidelity editing experience. This includes exploring declarative extensions of XML Schema as well as programmatic frameworks that extend basic XML analysis with domain-specific semantics and customized editing operations

* Multi-language Debugging. Creating infrastructure for support debugging of scripting languages and for defining cross-language breakpoint and stepping operations in the context of a multilingual stack frame.

* Etc.

See http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-ldt/main.html
So, a cooperation might be worthwhile. But, of course, LDT is still in a infancy phase, so such cooperation is still very premature.


Any opinion on that ? Thxs.

Dominique